Stiller: You know, she was a sexual person. And they - they were concerned about, you know, just being portrayed in a fair light. I think they thought it probably would be something that was attempting to be funny. But it was - you know, look, they didn't know what we were doing. It was: "Ben Stiller go home." It's happened before. And so I think that energy was very palpable, feeling, you know, they're concerned about what we were doing, how we were going to portray them.Īrquette: I think there was a sign up on someone's house: "Go away Ben" or something. So the experience was: We were interacting with people in the prison, people who work there. We'd have to stop when there was a shift change. Stiller: Yeah, I was going to say we were actually shooting in actual - at Clinton and they were going in and out actually into the entrance of the prison. But I think it was a curious relationship between the two of them.Īrquette: Well I have to say we shot in a lot of prisons - and active prisons. But you know, ultimately when they got out on the run and they were out, it was a different environment for the two of them because they were both - you know, they had choices. Stiller: That to me was really one of the ultimate questions of the whole thing after getting involved with it and learning about the story, was that question, was - besides the relationship with Tilly between the two guys - was what was their relationship, Matt and Sweat? In terms of: Was it just one of sort of mutual dependency - they both wanted to get out so they sort of had a common goal together? Matt was an artist, a painter, and so he taught Sweat to paint in prison, and I think they bonded on that level. On if Richard Matt and David Sweat were actually friends But he did give me a lot of details about how he actually cut his way out of the cell, how they cut their way through the steam pipe - the 18-inch steam pipe that they shimmied through to then cut their way out of on the other side of the wall of the prison - and then what happened with him and Richard Matt when they were out on the run for 3 1/2 weeks. I don't know how much of what he was telling me was the truth. Stiller: I found him to be very forthcoming and basically said, like, "What do you want to know?" And we talked for about almost six hours. I just didn't want to deal with her drama, really. But also, having talked to some of these different people who had worked with her, they said that she's very litigious and always threatening people. I also think that she victimized others, so it was sort of a mixed bag of tricks.Īrquette: No, I actually didn't want to meet her, because I'd seen the Matt Lauer interview and I saw her lie in that - which is interesting as an actor, to watch someone lie. I think that a lot of the guys that are in prison are hustlers and charmers, and it's part of how they've survived. I mean, I do think that she was manipulated. Martin: Did you think of her as a victim?Īrquette: Not really. A part of her is being seen and loved by each of these different men. And having talked to one of the writers, he saw Tilly sort of as a woman who loves too much - that sort of love-addict personality. I wanted to work with Ben and I just thought-Īrquette: Exactly. Though best known as a comedic actor, Ben Stiller directed the Showtime drama series Escape at Dannemora.Īrquette: Well, it was really beautifully written.
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